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P'taah's Nov.Cvrsatns/Fear of Dire Circumstances

Chris Fine
309 posts
Dec 02, 2009
6:28 PM
Hi All:

Towards the end of the first track of the November Conversations with P'taah, he says the following:

"The more you can be in allowance of the wondrousness, the more wondressness is able to manifest.

"When you close up the heart and the mind in fear - in
the moments of forgetting who you are... you are closing off the opportunity to grow into this place of non-separation.

"And it is not that you have to DO anything but simply be AVAILABLE."

This was a very powerful thing to hear P'taah say, for me anyway. Would anyone care to explain to me what they see these 3 lines as meaning? I would love to hear it.

Here's what I think it means:

In the first line, wondrousness is non-separation. The more you can be in allowance of the non-separation, the more non-separation is able to manifest.

Second line: When we choose the fear thought system of the ego by closing up our minds and hearts in fear, then in those moments of forgetting that we are really already perfect and eternal expressions of Creation (that we are Christ to put it in another term), we are giving up the opportunity to manifest more wondrousness (also known as non-separation.)

Third line: And during all this it's not about DOING anything. You simply are aware and open. You're available.

Available for what?

Much love, Chris

Last Edited on 2-Dec-2009 6:31 PM

Chris Fine
310 posts
Dec 06, 2009
2:33 AM
Sooooooooooo. Available for what?

I've just had a long talk with my teacher about this subject line, so here's what I've gathered:

Be available to the wisdom that comes from learning and practicing allowance and embracement (forgiveness would be another word, and not in the terms of the usual Christian idea of forgiving someone but still being mad at them or resentful, or feeling like a victim. This is not the kind of forgiveness of which I speak.)

Be available to hear the voice of the Teacher within.

Be available for the awareness of non-separation.

Be allowing. Surrender to the teaching of Love.

Be available to the Love you are.

I'm quite glad that P'taah talks to us and says such things. They always make me contemplate more deeply, understand something just a little more strongly.

Such a joy to be a desirer of Truth.

Much love on the first Sunday of December, 2009. Many blessings and many thanks to you all for the joy you bring me, Chris
PatriciaLake
134 posts
Dec 08, 2009
12:34 PM
Hi dear Chris - Thanks for your post - there were lots of great wise words in this month's conversation.

re "The more you can be in allowance of the wondrousness, the more wondressness is able to manifest." from your comments above...

It only makes sense that for something to manifest, there has to be a "place" for it to fill. I often envision and desire to experience a "place" while I live on earth of "peace, goodwill toward men" and one where there is war no more. Over the years

folks have said that i am idealistic or whatever for believing in such a time and place on earth.

Yet I know in my heart that it's not really idealism

it's understanding a place must be made in my consciousness
for
such
a time
to be
in
my
experience.

So we all want to stay in such a space of peace and goodwill (esp. toward ourselves!)

I am seeing that when I maintain a state of appreciation that
I live more often
in a place of contentedness
with everything around me: people, me, and the events of my life.

It really does work - which is why Ptaahs love for us offers this notion of practicing
this state of gratitude, appreciation, the thank yous and the diligence to look & find the Gifts
in midst of trauma
and catastrophy
and despair and anger.

What has this thought or event or person brought to me that is
kind
educational
inspiring
heart warming
or heart wrenching (which squeezes the heart like a sponge and all the water holding old injuries pours out and opens up new bubbles of space for new loving memories)

As Joseph Campbell states We are ALL Warriors in this life - on our own adventures...and heroic journeys.

I'm having a great mental health day. I turned off my phone and have been listening to music all morning.

My sister sent me a Christmas box which contained fresh wheat bread from her VA bakery, and wonderful local jam. What a grand surprise and yummy present.

I loved the new Conversation.

It seems to say
that as I go thru space / time with a vulnerable, open hearted attitude and intent
then my physiology changes
and time changes too

becoming a bigger and bigger house to wander in (or s/b "larger and larger home"?)

might my eyes dilate as tho on psychidelics enhancing
my vision?
Time is Perceptual, so as I engage my perception in
The Moment
and spend time
Consciously staying in the moment, paying attention to my heart and beliefs, then all is well, yes?.

The tricky part is when I go off on a "non expanding rehash of the past / or fears for the future" type of perception....I am not to chastise or verbally "hit" myself. It does no benefit and offers no desired change.

I can choose to be vulnerable and open hearted with my errors, my fallings short, my perceived need to fix the bits in me & others...

I might think of how I am grateful to be who I am, broken bits and all! (not Real-ly, ya know!)

Anyway, I must be rambling.

So my thanks for the concerted effort to share our hearts w/one another on this BB. And HUGE thanks to Nele and Mickey for their grand efforts this month sharing with Ptaah such loving discussions - I love you three (4?) with a vulnerable and open heart!:)

HOpe all is well with All of you. Hugs and Kisses, Patricia
Chris Fine
312 posts
Dec 12, 2009
3:54 PM
Dearest Patricia:

My oh my, you were rambling indeed. I loved it. So many interesting points you made. Where to begin!

I'll just say that as I read your words, it felt like a cool yet warm river, smooth yet meandering, silver-mirrored with reflection to me of who I am.

I even
liked
how you put
words on short lines.

How creative is that?

Wow.

Poetic really is what it is.

I believe you described something as 'poetic' that I wrote once.

There is such a beauty in the written word, when used poetically.

What is this beauty, this art?

Is it the flow of love?

Ah. Well. Now I ramble.

A lovely ramble it is.

All I can think of now is how grateful I am to have you as my reflection.

Much love, many blessings, Chris

Last Edited on 15-Dec-2009 2:22 PM

PatriciaLake
135 posts
Dec 18, 2009
9:14 AM
Good morning Miss Chris (as we say here in the south)(ie Mr. Tom, Miss Patricia etc. is how local folks address you around this part of Georgia).

Yes, the poetry of words has always delighted me too. I did a survey of the kinds of books the winners of the nobel prize for literature have written over the past 100 years or so, and many of the winners won for their contribution writing POETRY. I had no idea...!!

Even the word
POEM
is fun and warm to say. dontcha think?

in the South we say things like Raise them up, as in Kids or Windows. Seems redundant no doubt but it's more to say it this way.

Did you picture yourself as a writer Chris? LIke one day you would write the great novel? It sounds like you and I shared that dream...

Along that note and rather mundanely I guess, have you thougth about the sound of 2010, twenty ten? I like it better than say '05 or '09....in fact I wanted us to use the "ought" word all decade...but I never heard "ought 9" once.

Re words: I am always looking for ways to improve my vocab so that I am aware when I use words that limit me. I've noticed that Ptaah is very careful selecting the words he uses in answering our questions.

Well, Chris, must get back to the office. Only 6 days til Christmas Eve!! Love and Very Merry's to All.
Chris Fine
315 posts
Dec 27, 2009
6:18 PM
Hi Patricia!

OK - to start, and I say this with the understanding that you'll realize it's my interest in your desire to improve your vocab (as you wrote above) that is guiding my hand here.... but it's not "ought" as in saying '08, but "aught", as in "aught-eight". Vocabulary and spelling are sisters that I've shared for many years, starting when my mom would constantly correct my spelling and pronunciation. I got away with nothing. Which helped me later in school, so I can't complain.

What I always remember though, is that whether someone spells it "ought" or "aught", I still end up understanding what the person means.

Which is all that's really important anyhow.

Yes, poem is a fun word. Some people pronounce it "po-em", others pronounce it, "pome" as in rhyming with "home". Others, like me, pronounce it "po-mm", where the 'e' is pretty much disregarded. Still others, pronounce it "po-uhm", others "poym".

I really didn't picture myself as the great novelist or writer when I was younger. I just knew I loved the language, and I played with it whenever the spirit moved me.

I do like the sound of '2010'. It sounds very futuristic to me. I like it a lot.

Yes, P'taah chooses his words very deliberately in answering our questions. I think that's done not only for the sake of accuracy, but also for assisting us in understanding more clearly, that which we already know, as he has often said.

So my friend. It's 2 days after Christmas. Sunday evening here. New Year's soon to come. We move in repetition towards more New Years to come, living in a world that really isn't, on our way to eternal life, where we already are.

Much love to you always dear sister, Chris





 

 

 

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