Recently I am thinking about meditating. I think of meditation of just be in the being. The mind goes out of the way and in the stillness we discover who we really are. I don't know if P'taah talked about a technique and wanted to ask this question on the BB. On the other side I know that any method is for "the mind". The stillness cannot be "reached" through a technique, it is there and is waiting for us to recognise it.
Hello Burake. Your message above feels familiar to me. From my memory on Conversations CDs, P'taah does not give instructions on how to meditate yet says it is valid for anyone who wants to use it in their daily experiences. Everything is valid.
Personally,'prayer' was a great part of my early consciousness and somewhere along my expansion of awareness, I became interested in what 'meditation' is all about. My conclusion is 'prayer' is asking for something and 'meditation' is listening or receiving what already is.
For me, you describe exactly my feelings. I'm certain there are as many other experiences/feelings as there are humans on this planet.
I agree with Reese in that I don't recall a specific meditation technique advocated by P'taah, however in the "Catalog" section of this website there is a cd or mp3 download described as:
"Meeting with Your Soul CD"
"In this wonderful CD (MP3 also offered at a lower price), P'taah guides you through a relaxation exercise and then into a meeting with your soul where you are given a special message. A truly awesome experience!"
This is an exercise he has done in countless workshops, and is a fun way to connect with your "higher self" in a meditative sort of way.
I do remember one thing P'taah has said many times, and I believe it goes along with your conclusion that meditation is just to be in the being. He has said something along these lines:
Thank you very much friends. I have found a music. I think I will stay with this music. I think it is more important to be honest to oneself and have the will to remember and the media we choose is not that important. I ask my higher self, my connection, P'taah etc. to be with me when I am listening to this music. Maybe it's better to say 'I decided' to remember my connection by listening to this music because my connection is always with me. It is like always a decision from my side to remember the love I am.
Thank you Chris. I had already written before what I write and you perceive to be nice or teaching comes through me and not from me. I think we are all trying to understand a big big universal intelligence. We are in a way all "channels" for it, we keep our minds away and let it express itself through us.
If Ptaah is right, I thought lately, maybe we are afraid of meditating. We are afraid that somehow feelings will come which we put beneath the carpet. If he's right we are afraid of our broken heart. Who knows maybe a small boy or a girl will emerge out of the stillness which seemingly contains nothing. And maybe we are all afraid to meet him or her.
"I had already written before what I write and you perceive to be nice or teaching comes through me and not from me. I think we are all trying to understand a big big universal intelligence. We are in a way all "channels" for it, we keep our minds away and let it express itself through us."
My Father does all things through me.
"If Ptaah is right, I thought lately, maybe we are afraid of meditating. We are afraid that somehow feelings will come which we put beneath the carpet. If he's right we are afraid of our broken heart. Who knows maybe a small boy or a girl will emerge out of the stillness which seemingly contains nothing. And maybe we are all afraid to meet him or her."
Why are we afraid to meet that small boy or girl?
Thank you for your wishes of peace, love and wisdom. They are with you also my friend and with much love I send this, in anticipation of your answer to the question above. Chris
I don't know how to put this feeling in words Chris. It is most probably impossible to express it by words. But everytime I feel really surrender in the now, everytime I really "let be" whatever it is, it seems to me I must cry. I don't know what it is but a kind of pain emerges, a kind of unhappiness, some kind of loneliness, a feeling of being abandoned. It is like being small and unprotected. It feels like vulnered, but deeply... It is like sitting there unprotected, unprotected from myself. I know that we make our own reality and I think that on some level it is not to focuse on feelings like that -in order not to create them unnecessarily. But the question is, is this maybe the way of healing? Is this the way of letting go? If it is this, there's no escaping from it. We always run away from pain and sorrow P'taah says. Go to the child and say that you love him he says. I trust him and think maybe it is this what he's talking about. Maybe (there's no way to know it for me this for sure) this is a way of creating love and discovering more of it.
Much love and my desire to serve and to be more...
As P'taah has many times said when he talks about the "Baby Me" tool that he gives us (and I paraphrase):
"Beloved, if you saw this baby you before you, terrified and fearful, would you try to escape him? Would you try to "let him go" or run away from him? No. You would take this baby one and hold him to your chest, and tell him: 'Beloved of my heart, I love you absolutely, and will never leave or abandon you again. We are together forever in this safe and wondrous universe, and together we are coming home.' "
And as these words are spoken without judgment of the little one, the pain that is this baby you is swirled into the Godlight of you, and is transformed in feeling from fear, to love.
You are quite right dear burake, as you say in your last line - "this is a way of creating love and discovering more of it." There IS a way for you to know for sure whether this is true or not, and that is to use the "Baby Me" tool, next time you are in fear or pain or anguish. It works!
Which is why this is such a valuable tool in our transformation. One I have used often.
I am happy to serve next to you my friend, on this path we walk.
Lots of love and many blessings of awakening spirit, Chris
We still our minds ... and Quiet our thoughts ... then We will soon find The gifts we sought.
Ah but there's the rub. We so often start with 'great expectations' but so very often find that we ourselves get in the way!!! Chris I find that is my experince - yes 'The Baby Me' is a great gift and tool and a tranformative one, but we need to be able to use it, or remember to use it at the right time. Sometimes I find that I remember it only AFTER the 'episode' has passed - it is at its most powerful if we use it when the emotion or whatever is at its peak - but often I miss it till all is passed. But I do find that I can still embrace the 'Baby Me' and declare my love.
I used to feel so quilty and hopeless and at times annoyed with my perceived failure to find that stillness, but now I refuse to feel quilty about my so called transgressions or oversights and failures. I now see that ALL experience is valid and release whatever feeling that comes up with love and gratitude. Hey it works IF I remember to come from love no matter what.
Sounds pretty easy. But for me it has been an 'interesting' journey.
So thank you all for these posts that have brought this rememberance to me.
Hi Dennis, I think we can use the baby me tool anytime and not when the emotion is at its peak. So to say there is never a time when we are not "that heartbroken baby", also in our quiet moments. And I believe it is rather difficult to find to the baby when we are in strong emotions. The baby needs care and attention and when we are quiet and calm in ourselves we can find it easier to find our way to him.
Yes, we can often go to the Baby One later, after our upsetting episode has passed, and in reviewing what happened, we can return to the fear we had, and allow the Baby Me to come in and transform the fear to love. This is the beauty of the Baby Me experience. It allows any energy that is not of love, to then transform to love.
In truth, there is no order of magnitude to this miracle. Whether it's done during the apparent time of the episode, or later, when reviewed in our thoughts, that fear is still there, and it can be brought up in to the light of love.
But an interesting point is brought up by Dennis. We often don't remember to use this tool during the initial moment we are in some sort of fear. Whether we revisit the situation that brought up the fear at a later time or not, depends on how vigilant we are for that which is not of the Light within us, and depends on the degree of desire we have to change that which is darkness into Light, or that which is the experiencing of fear/ego, into the realization of the eternal existence of Love/God as ourselves.
Desire. We have to have the desire. We have to watch for and be vigilant for those moments when we decide for the ways of the ego (fear) and in those moments, because of our vigilance and of our desire to find another way than fear, we can choose again (by using the Baby Me tool).
Much love to you dear friends, as we approach 2010.
