Discretion
Mickey

62 post s
20-Jun-2008
9:27 AM
Yesterday we had an unfortunate incident where something was posted that was regarded as threatening. The post was immediately deleted.

As a result, we have made some changes to the board. Membership is no longer automatic when you register. Each new member will be emailed our welcome page with the user hints and our ground rules. They must email back their agreement to the ground rules before they are approved.

We have added a ground rule warning that if anyone posts anything threatening, the post will immediately be deleted and as a precaution, reported to the proper authorities. The person posting will also be removed and not allowed back.

Our suggestion to all of our members, especially if you make your profile and contact information public, is that you use discretion in what information you provide. We also ask that you not post your email address in any messages.

It is our intention that the board be a safe place to post. We also hope you will have fun with it. It isn't so serious, you know, all this stuff about 'enlightenment'. P'taah reminds us time after time that we already are where we're struggling so hard to get.

Much love,

Mickey

burake

117 post s
20-Jun-2008
10:53 AM
Thank you Mickey. Also thanks to the person who posted the threat...
burake

118 post s
20-Jun-2008
10:55 AM
I on my behalf think that our thinking of this forum not being a safe place invited this experience. What we're mostly not aware of, creates our reality...
Cane Toad

20 post s
20-Jun-2008
4:27 PM
Was the threatening post the one by Shaun about the Jeshua channeling on beliefs, because I saw that post last less than the time to read it. Perhaps not, because it was a good post, and a good message, Shaun.

While it was outside the limited realm of the message board, and did indeed break free of the ground rules, I certainly saw nothing threatening about it.

I would like to know if that post is the one you refer to, because it doesn't feel warm and loving to me, to delete messages outside the scope of the P'Taah message. I don't feel comfortable giving any of you that sort of control over me, and may have to respond according to my highest growth.

I am grateful for the truth on the path, no matter where it comes from.

With Peace and Prosperity, and inner magical radiance,
Cane Toad.

PhiNics

36 post s
20-Jun-2008
6:29 PM
Dear Cane Toad,
no, that was not Shaun's post. However, I deleted Shaun's message because it was copyrighted material.
Ph.
shaun

11 post s
21-Jun-2008
3:39 AM
Hi all

Just one question , do we really believe it is compatable with P'Taah's teachings to push away what we judge to be undesirable , to regulate against the "unwanted"?

One of the things I like about this BB is that it is , like everything , reflecting back at us who we are and it is fun to lovingly embrace even the comments(especially the comments)that get a reaction.Allow , allow , allow resonates better with me than dictate , regulate , delete or buying into the victimhood belief that someone can be threatened.Isn't it that the person "feels" threatened , in which case it would be a perfect opportunity to embrace that fear.
These are of course just my own musings which hopefully won't be deleted this time!

To quote P'taah;

Now, you may say that this reality called third density is a world of polarity. Good-bad, black-white, love-fear, and all of the other polarities. Sometimes you judge one part of the polarity to be negative. That indeed is a subjective judgment because, of course, the polarities exist in every level and without them you do not have what you perceive to be this reality. We are speaking in terms of physics here.

So in terms of that which you judge to be negative -- good-bad, love-fear, light-dark, black-white -- whatever it is, it is for you to learn to see what the reality is of that which is judged to be negative. It is to be in the embracement, to be in the loving allowance. It is to allow the transcendence of the polarity. It is to see that love, compassion, embracement, and allowance create a synergistic affect where the result of transcending the polarities becomes more than the polarities themselves. Does this make sense? All right.

So it is not to look at that which is judged to be negative as something to be pushed away, something to be overcome or overpowered. Rather, it is to look at the why of the negative judgment and how that which is perceived to be negative is created out of fear. And through that love and compassion and allowance you automatically create the more.

End quote.

I guess what I am saying is "do not be too trigger happy guys!"when it comes to deleting/editing or you might lose the esence of what attracted me to this board in the first place.

Namaste
Shaun

Chris Fine

94 post s
21-Jun-2008
5:00 AM
"I guess what I am saying is "do not be too trigger happy guys!"when it comes to deleting/editing or you might lose the esence of what attracted me to this board in the first place."

Your point is well taken Shaun, and Mickey in fact advised Philipp and myself the same thing. The intention is to delete very sparingly, only when or IF needed, and hopefully not at all.

There is a recent message from Mickey at the top of the Community Forum page, which clarifies the website guidelines. The intention is to maintain this forum as a place where people can come and grow, even if it may come with controversy, such as in the recent "No Ptaah" thread, where discussion became somewhat heated. That thread provided an important growth opportunity for any here who chose to experience it, and it wasn't deleted.

I assure you that the posting which was deleted, was highly inappropriate, written by a very recent participant. Much thought was put into whether to delete the message, and in the end it was decided that, as you said, the essence of what attracted many to this board in the first place was not being served by this threatening and destructive post. I do assure you, we won't be trigger happy! The more discussion, the merrier!

Much love, Chris

P.S. Shaun - as a note. I'm a student also of Jeshua's and love "The Way of Mastery" and of course, "A Course in Miracles". We can talk about these teachings, and they do align with P'taah's. Here is a section of the guidelines that applies to this:

" - This is a P'taah message board and our purpose is to give like-minded people a safe space to share their experiences with P'taah and his teachings. We know that you sometimes run across other material that you want to discuss, and that is fine, but posting material from or links to other sources is not appropriate."

Although quotes aren't allowed due to copyright issues, a discussion of Jeshua's ideas about beliefs, or your take on it and how it could apply to an aspect of life, would be fine per the above guideline. Often people learn more anyway when the material is presented in conversation form, rather than as a direct quote. Books can be discussed, and book titles given, or people can recommend checking google or the internet if they are further interested in any topic being discussed. Free and open discussion is encouraged, and I think if everyone reads the guidelines, you can have some clarification, or.... feel free to ask!

Last Edited on 21-Jun-2008 5:15 AM

Chris Fine

95 post s
21-Jun-2008
7:11 AM
A note for edification:

"This is P'taah's BB and I appreciate the courage it takes for the moderators to focus on this information."

We can't say that this bulletin board "belongs" to P'taah. It was developed, and continues to be developed by humans who are interested in a community and discussion of P'taah's teachings. As such, it is our bulletin board, and we make it what it is.

And while we do focus on P'taah's teaching here, the intent is not to exclude comments made once in a while of other teachings which are in alignment with P'taah's. We are not here to steadfastly refuse to allow members to talk about a teaching that might be from another entity, yet which is still in essence the Truth as P'taah teaches it.

Please do remember that P'taah's teachings are not limited only to him. Many, many other friends of humanity are here to help us understand Truth, which is what P'taah teaches, as well as others, such as St. Germaine, Jeshua, Bartholomew, Seth, Abraham, The WingMakers, the list goes on and on. In fact, it was Jani's contact with St. Germaine that helped to trigger her channelling of P'taah.

People who come to this board have usually read P'taah as well as many other channeled teachings. Ultimately, these teachings are integrated together, and each person can then speak with originality, based on their integrated learnings. Many people who find a new book are excited because for instance, some concept they had difficulty understanding is now made more clear from having read the book, and they want to share that with others here, who may be similarly benefited.

From my understanding, there are not limitations to the discussion of Truth on this board, although certainly, those discussions are meant to be in alignment with P'taah's teachings, since that is what we believe to be Truth.

So - for anyone reading this. Feel free to talk freely. And for anyone reading a thread that is discussing the teachings of another besides P'taah, and you're not interested, just move on to the next thread.

May we all find a greater expansion of our knowledge and love, through our development of our inner "barometer" that guides us to Truth. It is never the messenger that matters. It is the message.

Much love, Chris

Last Edited on 21-Jun-2008 7:25 AM

Marta

67 post s
21-Jun-2008
10:52 AM
Hi Shaun,

I feel the same way about the board and it makes me feel sad to see that our exchange will be regulated this way.

Why would I want to come to this board if someone else will decide if my contribution is right or wrong?

There is no attraction in that. It will take the LIFE out of our interaction. I am afraid it willl not be real, authentic and genuine.

Which is the only thing that would be attractive to me about participating.

Namaste,
Marti

Chris Fine

96 post s
22-Jun-2008
11:02 AM
Dear Beloved Friends:

On this board and within this website there is an organization of sorts. The source of an organization is empowered to establish a vision for the group energy to achieve. All who invest their time and energy to the group have a responsibility to align to this vision.

The posting that was deleted, was not aligned with the vision of this website, nor did the person desire to take responsibility to align to this vision. Because of his/her nonalignment, this is not a group which resonates with him/her.

We are willing for anyone to move on who feels the desire to do so, and our love travels with them always. This space is not shared with someone who is not in alignment with its vision, because the vision is not strengthened and upheld, yet attempts are made to undermine and destroy. Ultimately, that is why the posting was deleted.

There is great freedom here to express your experience with and understandings of the teachings, or to express your fears so that we all may experience transformation, and assist each other in this regard. Yet in the end, those who gather here, and those for whom the purpose of this website was developed, are of the Light so to speak, and desire to bring the darkness to the Light, not to become further embroiled in the anger, fear, and paranoia of the ego, with no intention to transform these. What undermines the purpose here, must move on until such time as they desire to align with Truth and the Light of Love.

There is much love for you here, our family is growing, and those of us with an even basic understanding and agreement with P'taah's teachings are all in alignment with the purpose of this group: our own growth and evolution into the remembrance of ourselves as Love itself.

Much love, Chris

Last Edited on 22-Jun-2008 11:38 AM