To those of you with children I have a quick question, My son came to me the other day and told me this 'Mum, when I talk to the other kids and my friends at school about how the world really works they tell me I'm wrong, and some of them laugh at me' I admit I reacted in fear and suggested to him that he just not talk about it, to keep it to himself as some of his friends probably wouldn't understand. I did not want him to be ridiculed at such a young age, or be driven from his beliefs. How should I guide him on this path, so far I have made all manner of teachings available to him, and allowed him to make his own choices, but I am unsure how to continue. He is coming soon into an 'interesting'(Teenage years) time of his life and will be tested at every turn. I want to be able to help him in a positive way.
Thank you all for your help in this matter Your beloved sister from Oz Jules
Hi Jules, My thoughts are with my children aswell. I came on to this website to ask Ptaah a burning Question on how to teach children that they create their own reality.Then I thought I would just have a quick look at the forum to see if someone else might know. And look at that there you are. How did you teach your son? My son is 6 and he just laughs at me when I tell him its his choice or his responsibility or that he is star seeded. Have you got any good tips. Thanks Wendy Uki NSW Australia
How about asking him questions like: What do "you" think about his matter? What does it mean to you when some of your friends tell you taht you are wrong? Is it annoying for you when some of your friends laugh at you? We cannot simply assume that everybody has the same fears like "us" at least we should give another person a chance to express himself. When the child "sees" we're afraid of this situation (being laughed) he can pick this up allthough maybe he could evolve on another way. I would talk with him about this matter as much as I could and maybe express himself in pictures or in writing this down. If he is disturbed by the reactions of his friends I would ask him what does he suggest to do in this situation. I would follow this suggestion and put maybe my own suggestions about this just to make him reflect on this. I would let him feel that at the end it will be his decision what to do. Questions the children ask us do not mean yet that they do not have the answer but that they are in the search of "their answer". Children are brilliant and very well knowing and we cannot really "teach" them much - Actually the more we try to teach the more we will make people like us and limit the evolving in other unique ways:)) I would suggest you to take time on this matter and watch your jewel enfolding himself...Namaste
And welcome, I would love to share some child raising hints with you, I also worked in child care for many years before I had mine so here goes;
I have been teaching my children mainly by example, living the teachings as much as I can. It is hard at times as children tend to keep you grounded in this reality/illusion. But I have found that children learn most by watching what you do rather than what you say.
When they express a negative I remind them that, if that(the Neg) is what they want to believe then that is what will be true for them. ie the old favorite "I can't do it" I tell them that if they believe they can't, then they never will, then I tell them that it is just as easy to believe they can(which gets better results)than they can't(which doesn't get results) Then I remind them that THEY CAN DO IT and that I BELIEVE IN THEM, this last one seems to be the catalyst to them continuing to try until they see that they can actually do it, whatever it is. Slowly, time and their own personal experience of these lessons has shown that its better to be positive.
I find the lessons come naturally during conversations, watching a movie or just hanging out etc they will let you know when they're open to new ideas. Encourage them to have an open mind, to know that they are more than just their physical bodies, that what they say or believe about themselves is IMPORTANT and that LOVE and respect for each other, in the case of siblings especially, is always the way.
Mine still fight at times(Ben 10,Rachel 8) but they are extremely close and usually know when to leave each other alone. I rarely have to step in, most of the time when they have an issue they sort it out themselves and everyones happy. If I have to step in they know that whatever their fighting about(if its a thing) usually becomes mine, LOL If its a personal space/respect issue I remind them how they would feel if it was happening to them. This is usually enough. I hope this helps Wendy
Much Love to you and yours Your beloved Sister Jules from Vic
My children have actually taught me sooooo much about myself. More than anything I could ever teach or help them remember about themselves. We will talk about this again, he and I, and I will remember to ask what his feelings are about this, what HE wants to do, rather than react in fear. Fear really does IMMOBILISE.
Indeed it HAS been such a joy, right from the beginning to watch them unfold into themselves. Stay tuned for the next installment of our shared learning.
Thanks Again for the help/reminders in this matter
I forgot to add that mine laughed at me also when I told them that they were star seeded, that they chose us as parents etc, but through their own KNOWING and personal experiences they have come to accept it as being true for them.
Children are such a blessing and can teach us SO much, it is for us to ensure that we don't teach them our own conditioning patterns.
My children told me the greatest gift, and teaching I offered them was I lived who I was, and made no apologies for the truth I understood within me. Having over the years allowed deeper truths to manifest, they also learned not to fear change, or to fear facing who they were, or what others said.
The light within me showed clearly. The deeper I saw myself, and understood who, and what I was, the deeper, and with clarity I saw those around me.
I remember my daughter one day got ready for school, and she had on all her clothes wrong side out. I ask what she was trying to say by the choices she was making. "She smiled and replied, "Different is not a bad thing, and the way we see is limited by our own perceptions. When we lay down the baggage we carry around we can be free to embrace the harmony of the greater whole, then she winked at me and said, just be glad I wore clothes." We had a good laugh. She went to school, and was sent home to change.
She changed, and returned to school with no bra on. Back then that was a big deal, not like today. Well I get a call from the school office, and had to go get my daughter as she was not appropiate to what the teacher felt was right.
Being in a hurry I went with the sleeveless top I had on, smuged with fresh garden dirt, as I had been working in the garden. The teacher on seeing me made the comment, "Well I can see why your daughter does not know how to dress appropiately, and like everyone else." The teacher was asking my daughter be suspended for a week for her behavior.
My daughter asked why some people can not see beyond their own walls, and fears. I replied, "Because they are afraid of remembering who they are." On the day my daughter returned to school word had gotten out, and her entire class came to school with clothes on back wards, no bra's for some of the girls, and mens boxer shorts worn on the out side of the pants. The teacher was angry. Then one of the class mates showed pictures of people from all over the world. He made the comment, "Different is not a bad thing, narrow minded judgements are."
The best gift, and teaching we can offer our children, and those around us is to be true to our self, and live with wholeness the awareness we know. As we are here to grow these things will deepen, and change but the root of truth will give evidence to our intent, and reason for being here.
On graduation day the teacher wore her graduation robe wrong side out. Her opening statement was, "The greatest teacher is the student who is willing to learn as they walk their path in wholeness before them. How else will others, and those around them see, and come to know the whole truth. Life should never be about fitting in, but about Being, and living the expanding truth inside you without fear, or a need to hide. The greatest student is the one not afraid to teach what they know, and seek to live in love"
Thank you for sharing your glorious intelligence with us again. I always think that one aspect of "true to one's self" helps find your conviction and is a shortcut to success. But it requires a very high degree of the understanding on what feeling is.
As a female (49) who did not read fiction and story since teenage, I've enjoyed very much the beauty of your stories and the magical touch of words.
How about parables, and short stories with a wonderful message, much like what aireal has written?
When they are older, like 15-20 it would be good to expose them to various Spirit channel books, and other eosoteric information and I would reccommend books on Nostradamus, and Edgar Cayce and then later Seth because I loved them at that age. Give a wide array of exposure, and see what types of info they are keen to find more about. Crop circles, hypnotic regression, The secret life of plants, ghosts and phenomena, religious manifestations, and so on.
Younger children 8-14 you could try parables, and more symbolic, shorter stories, as they truly love and enjoy fables and tales of adventure at that age.
It is good to let them know you don't have all the answers. Avoid coming over as an all-knowing teacher, because they will automatically have that inclination anyway, and it's more ideal to encourage their own seeking, in many more forms and outlets, and begin to share their research with you, rather than the other way round. So if you can't answer a particularly hard question, don't try and invent something, ask them to tell you, after they research it.
Thank you so much, Aireal and Cane Toad(Hello to you too, up there in the Sunshine State) Aireal that is a wonderful story, an amazing example. Thank you as I needed the reminder on judgement, especially where my children are concerned and to just allow them to be who they are, its me that gets stuck in the fear of tomorrow sometimes. I will work on my fear and allow them to BE, whatever that is. It is scary for me as a mother surrounded by other scared mothers but I cannot let that deter me or cause me to forget who we are. I must remember that my children are living their lives, not me, whatever they face are their lessons to learn, not mine. Just as what other mothers do are also their own and not be in Judgement. This is a full time job, remembering to live in the now moments, remembering that everything is valid no matter what. So I will continue to offer all manner of literature and avenues of learning and not be in judgement if the way they discover their answers is not the same as my own.
Thank you Thank you Thank you Much love to you all Jules from the Rainforest
Thank You Jules for the words of wisdom. If you think of any more send them my way Im ready to embrace it all. Thank you everybody else for the interesting read. From Wendy ( 40 this year and hanging out at Mt Warning )
What an amazing, spiritual place you live. My Dad lived in Tyalgum for many years so I know how beautiful it is, do you have any stories to share of your own experiences of the incredible mountain/volcano.
As far as parenting tips go Im very happy to share with you ALL as I desire lots of guidence to continue remembering and waking up to, not only who I am, but also allowing my children to be who they are.
So thank you all for this amazing shared journey, please continue to offer your tips on how to live fully in the teachings, especially where children are concerned. I love it all!
Hi Wendy, I am very interested in places. I believe where we live has always a special energy and couldn't keep myself of looking in googleearth what or where Mt. Warning is (didn't here of it before). It looks really very special. Living in the nature must be wonderful... Congratulations for choosing that awesome spot to live...
PS: If anybody in the forum is interested I can give him the googleearth coordinates of the place where I am. It is in south Turkey at the Mediterranean sea.
I am also very interested in geography, places and would love to see where you live. Maybe you could send them to Mickey and she can forward them on to those interested With much love to you on the beautiful Sea Jules :)
PS I understand what you mean now about choosing love and choosing love, it is not a choice to choose fear, it is just a realization that you are fearful, then a choice to follow the Love Path and not remain in that fear. Thank you for helping me understand, It is all joyous learning:)
If it is OK for Mickey I can also post my coordinates here on the BB. For me they are not any personal information which I seek to protect. Anybody is welcome to see them...
I spoke with Mickey and Philipp yesterday and the question came up about posting email addresses or other locations/addresses within a posting on this board. Her viewpoint is to use discretion and discernment, and that it's entirely your choice. There is nothing mentioned in our guidelines regarding this, so you can post your coordinates if you would like to.
Right now I'm sitting in the third of the redroofed houses -when one approaches from the sea- on the left row next to the greencolured ones (that's a hotel actually). Just a few steps from the amazing beauty of the endlessness called "the sea". It is interesting. I was not born at the sea und couldn't get friends with her for a long time...
I have just been checking out above coordinates, your beach looks amazing, thank you for sharing. I also checked out where Dolphins are...is that a seaworld type of place, because the coordinates took me to a land based park. It looks lovely, I guess I just assumed they were in the sea.
much love to you across the seas Jules
ps I grew up on the beach so I understand how someone who didn't might find it difficult at first to love all her scents and constantly changing face, but I still love it anytime of year and find it a great place to gather strength. My own beach is at 38"01"13"S, 145"05'43"E. A place called Aspendale on Port Phillip Bay, we used to roam as children all the way from Mordialloc Pier to Edithvale and now I try do same with my own children whenever I can as we live an hour away in the hills now. We also have dolphins and the occassional Whale in our Bay. Im going now to listen to a whalesong, Thanks again for sharing Jules
I think you need to be realistic with regard to what people are like. It's not always safe to let people know you hold beliefs that are different from the norm. I think it is better if your child keeps these things to himself or he is likely to be ridiculed or bullied or even ostracised at school. And as for telling childre they are star seeded, etc, if they are open to that then fine, but if they are disturbed by it then don't discuss it with them.
I know of someone who used to work in the corporate world as a senior manager & she quit to become a healer. She rather foolishly continues to contact her old friends & discuss her "new work" with them & talks about angels, etc. She cannot understand why they treat her as though she is mentally ill & keep on trying to break off all contact with her. Surely people are sensible enough to see when it's appropriate to talk about these things & when it isn't? Of course regular people are going to think we are crazy if we talk about P'taah & angels & healing & 2012, etc. We are just making them feel disturbed when we talk of these things that they have no understanding of & no interest in. You need to come to an acceptance of that.
Hi Jules, Yes, the dolphins live in a sea park, they are trained dolphins. And what a wonderful place you live! To be a child and being closed to the wondrousness of the sea must have been wonderful. I am glad you like listening to the whalesongs too. It is the most ever "resonating with every cell o' my body" thing for me. In the sea world there is also Mina, a female white whale of amazing beauty... I send you and your family also my loving greetings across the seas and across the world. I sometimes think there is a connection between places also throu the physical mass of gaia... Let the joy be with you and the ones you share your life with...
Zebra - I agree with you. Our children are sovreign gods and goddesses who will have their own paths.
I chose to follow the path of Christian Science from about age 14-28. At 14 I was sharing ideas with my friends that did not mesh with their view of God at all. I'll never forget one day we were all hanging around in the woods near our homes and wound up sitting in a sort of semi-circle whereupon they told me they could no longer be my friends because I had become too weird. It was a most painful time for me.
The blessing that came during that painful experience was part of another story.
About a year earlier I was getting ready for school and I was feeling very estranged from people in general. I kept feeling like I was supposed to "fit" their ideas of what I "should" be like - whether it was friends, parents, sisters...I felt constrained by all of my relationships and as I tied my shoe that morning at age 13 I had this wonderful wonderful moment.
I .heard a voice (that may have only been my voice coming through time from a "later" date(?) that spoke very calmly about maintaining my own Self, Being True to Thyself and everything would work out fine, although it may not always be easy. It was over that quickly and I did not recognize it for the amazing moment it was. It Did make me feel very good and took away the stress of that "estranged" feeling I was going through.
and that has been my path. Being true to myself - and learning to allow others the same rights.
this to me is an awesome expression of Love. (even if my children decide to become nihilists or nazi's or kkk or extreme christian zealots or some other (in my opinion) group member with whom I have little in common - who am I to intrude? And wouldn't I be doing so out of Fear, not love?
So our children can be given the Right to be who they are, eh? They must walk before they run, just as we have had to do. My christian science led to unity church led to course in miracles led to p'taah. P'taah has offered me no limits, so I have not run into a barrier, as I did with these other modalities, with P'taahs wisdom.
P'taah says so wisely that we teach best by how we live (not by what we say). So if you want to teach your children something, Live It!
"..as I tied my shoe that morning at age 13 I had this wonderful wonderful moment.
I heard a voice (that may have only been my voice coming through time from a "later" date(?) that spoke very calmly about maintaining my own Self, Being True to Thyself and everything would work out fine, although it may not always be easy. It was over that quickly and I did not recognize it for the amazing moment it was. It Did make me feel very good and took away the stress of that "estranged" feeling I was going through.
and that has been my path. Being true to myself - and learning to allow others the same rights."
I can relate to this experience especially when I was at that age. I too heard a voice, not with my physical ears, but an inner voice, saying the same.
How cool is that? Do you suppose many youngsters do?(referencing your comment above about "hearing" a voice)
That experience has kept me sane -
and I think that sometimes that is the hardest part about being on a path like mine (ours?), everyone who doesn't share the path makes you out to be crazy...and it certainly feels crazy sometimes.
But then you realize the world is crazy (the way it's set up to run) and you are not.
I look forward to more conversations with you. Love Patricia
And yes, I believe especially teenagers are hearing this voice since it is my understanding, that it is our second chance to choose for ourselves. So many of us are crushed by the immense pressure that comes from family, peers, society to conform to the "norm".
It took me a long time to realize that my reality, me and my thoughts and feelings are just as valid as anybody else's. That was the first step. Second was, when I realized, it's not me who is crazy.
That was very deliberating.
Today I would support the children to be who they are. They have not forgotten and the sooner we support their inner knowing the better for them and everyone else.
That would be the most important thing in parenting and teaching (and healing..)
