Abraham
Marta

60 post s
12-Jun-2008
8:39 AM
Hi Everyone,

I thought this quote from Abraham is appropriate for all of us to think about.
Have a good day,
Marti

If man understood that "what I create has nothing to do with what anybody else is creating" then he wouldn't be so afraid of what others are doing.

Excerpted from a workshop in El Paso, TX on Saturday, November 14th, 1998

All Is Well

Jules

16 post s
12-Jun-2008
11:22 AM
Good Morning Marta

Thank you for the above, I feel the love lol
(I'm a poet and I didn't know it!)

yeah I know its far too early for corny jokes :)
your beloved Sis from Oz
Jules


Good Morning everyone

Its 3am here in the land of Oz, and I found myself pondering, once again the recent exchanges. So here I am searching for answers. I found it very disconcerting as well, to have that reflected to me, but as I think about
it, I see it as just a glimpse to one possibility, a reminder that this is what happens when we close ourselves off to all possibilities and think that our way is the only way. It isn't, there are endless ways, paths and
experiences, that can lead us home. Its all good, Nothing is wrong, there are only different levels of correctness. I choose now, to think of it as a glorious co-creation that we both can benefit from. Its not for me to Judge
another and his/her path. I remember feeling so peaceful when I first learned this as I was struggling at the time with "why do all the 'bad things' happen to good people". P'taah taught me that its not my place to know whats going on in their head, that when one person survives cancer or whatever it might be thats causing their Dis Ease(that was another real revelation to me) and another doesn't it has everything to do with what they believe in that, sometimes secret and dark place deep in their head. Sometimes its not even a dark place just old thought patterns that need to be brought into the light in order to be seen.
Thank you for listening Everyone, as I write this I find my questions in that regard are now answered.

Much love to you all on this Day :)
your beloved Sis from Oz
Jules

ps It doesn't matter how the message is conveyed or what terminology you use,ie semantics, mine is quite naive, and thats ok as long as the feeling of Love and the Understanding of the message is there.

Jules

Marta

61 post s
12-Jun-2008
12:18 PM
Jules,

Good Morning!

I know what you mean by watching other people (or ourselves) creating something "unwanted" like a DIS-Ease, cancer or death.

If we are able to step back and disengage from the creation, we will experience that peace that you're describing in your morning post.

Have a wonderful day! Good Morning, Australia..

Love,
Marti

Jules

17 post s
12-Jun-2008
2:52 PM
Hey there Marta

And where is there by the way, I've been wanting to catch a glimpse of Olga Kharatidi's book, since you said the cover was like where you are, it sounds wonderful and I was imagining high Mountain Tops.
On that subject I would love to read her book 'Master of Lucid Dreams' and if its OK I would like to share with you now one of the many reasons why!

I haven't had a chance to share this with Chris yet, so Chris if your here this is for you too and anyone else who happens to be here, I would love to know your interpretation.

When I became pregnant with my son Ben 10years ago, I was fully immersed in P'taahs teachings at the time, so I was extremely honored that someone had chosen me to be a parent to them. This idea was not new to me(Louise L. Hay)
but was reinforced by P'taah. I was also still comimg to terms with how we can control our own reality, so when people started telling me of their horror stories re labour and birth(30+ hours I can't even imagine)I decided then and there that a 2 hour labour sounded good, why I picked that Number I don't know. Even my own Mum, bless her cotton socks, tried to warn me with her own 5 labour stories. I would have none of it, so I told anyone and everyone that I was having a 2 hour labour. It started off as a bit of a joke really, but as the pregnancy progressed I really believed it. Anyhoo at 36 weeks I had a dream that I had had a 2 hour labour and was going home, the hosp was going nuts cause I had only had him an hour ago. And that was it, end of dream. 2 weeks later at 38 weeks pregnant I had another Dream, I was in hospital again but hadn't had him yet(I knew he was a boy all the way through, and it was confirmed in an ultrasound) In the dream I was in the operating theatre with all these doctors and we were all going INTO the womb, this was all quite normal and natural?!! I wasn't concerned at all!
Next thing I know it was pitch black and there was this beautiful little baby just hanging there in suspended animation, lying on his back in fetal position and making sucking motions with his mouth. I was amazed and reached out with my hand, touching his downy soft head. My fingers and thumb separated, with my fingers going down the back of his head and my thumb gently rolling over his face and stopping at the mouth, where I felt his lips moving against my thumb.
I remember feeling this feeling of complete wonderment and joy and then that was it, the dream stopped. When I woke up I just thought WOW What an amazing dream, but thats all I thought it was, just a dream. A representation of what I was about to go through. It never occured to me that it was my Baby I had visited.

Imagine my surprise when 2 weeks later he was born, very nearly in the Car as the hospital didn't want us to come in yet, they said as it was my first it would be hours before he was born. We went anyway, me on hands and knees in back of Car, and by the time we got there he was crowning(head was showing) and it was only 7 minutes from the door of the hospital to delivery!! So much for them! The biggest surprise of all was when I saw him for the first time, HE WAS THE BABY FROM MY DREAM. I recognised him immediately, I had already met him, I had already touched him, it was a very humbling experience and one I'll never forget. We have an amazing bond as I do with my beautiful daughter(I'll share that another time), and he loves to hear the story, he was just leaning on my shoulder then, reading over it, and kissing me on the cheek(his lips are still as soft) as he just woke up.
Oh and by the way the Official time for Labour was, get this, 2 HOURS AND 1 MIN. I was only 1 min off my desired Labour.

Thank you for allowing me to share this small part of myself with you and I'd love to know what you think. I have to go now and prepare them for school and then rest, this is the second time I've typed this as I accidentally deleted it the first time!! Does that happen to you also, I didn't really mind typing it all again as I love the story myself,it always gives me goose bumps.

Thanks Again
The Sun is rising now in the land of Oz
It's going to be a Beautiful Grey Day today, I love the rain it makes my flowers grow! And I don't have to water.

Much love to you all
Your beloved Sister Jules

Marta

64 post s
12-Jun-2008
5:54 PM
Dear Jules,

your dream is wonderful. It stands on its own, no need for any comments. These are the dreams you never foget and you know it's real.

Thank you so much for sharing.

Love,
Marti

burake

127 post s
21-Jun-2008
12:41 PM
When I read threads like this I am sometimes filled with joy. What is joy I asked myself today. It is more then just being happy I think. It is beyond the level of the normal happiness, I mean happiness which is the result of things which we judge to be good, nice etc. On that level there are also things which we do not like (judgement) and of which we think they make us unhappy. Joy is on a different level, it comes "through one" no matter what he or she thinks the circumstances are beautiful or not...
Heidrun

56 post s
25-Jun-2008
7:51 AM
Dear Jules,
what a wonderful and beautiful story. This does show again that we need to change our belief system in being more open for cases we normally take "as a dream" and then find out
it was a different way(or part?)of reality.
greetings
Heidrun