burake 9 post s 6-Mar-2008 1:11 PM	I've read P'taahs books at least ten years ago. And after that a few times more. And I noticed that in time my understanding of P'taah has changed. When I ask myself what is P'taah today I can say it is just a form the unconditional love takes. Everything and everybody is made of this love. So P'taah can for me a person, it can be a plant, it can be an apple or a banana (I'm sure he's listening somewhere and won't be mad at me). It is that which is common to everything, that what my universe is made of. It is me, it is you (whoever you are), it is the screen you are looking at, it is the very first person you are going to meet after you read these words and hundred percent and exactly this person. P'taah is what can not be told with words, he is the isness itself. A sound, talking about unconditional love "is" the unconditional love itself. In fact we can say that he is "me" and doesn't ask himself silly questions like what or who is P'taah. Only through "my perception" I am "not him" so I am questioning. Not yet...And the day I realise I am a person, a plant, an apple and a banana at the same time - one shouldn't forget the screen :-)), I will be P'taah too, I guess.Simply and automatically... -he doesn't really like talking about himself, does he:-)) Last Edited on 7-Mar-2008 1:10 AM
burake 12 post s 7-Mar-2008 10:17 AM	He must be a ship I thought today. No, I do not mean an intergalactic spaceship. A normal one, a boat maybe. We're all on this same ship and sailing throu the seas. The captain is speaking and we are all listening. And then we start searching for what he's telling us. He's telling about love and acceptance and what we do is to look out. We look to the horizont to see what he's talking about. We look to eachother for the same purpose. And also into the sky (you know it is God's adress since ancient times). But we're in fact just sitting on it. We're not just sitting on it but we're all made of it. There's nothing "out there". You may call it whatever you want, love, source, oneness or P'taah I really like also the word unconditional love which is completely synonym. Besides I like his sense of humour which is also based on his marvellous understanding for the human nature (that's why I think he won't be mad at me:-)).Of course I am not making jokes of anything here. I am taking his advices very sirious. His advice "not to take enlightenment too sirious" also. And I simply want to thank him and all of you which are sharing this energy with me by reading this text. I am not thanking him because of his teachings I thank him just for "being" . Just the same to you all. To me thanking to somebody without reason is like loving somebody without reason(s)...Who knows maybe this is also the meaning of the word ..."namaste"...
Hazel 11 post s 7-Mar-2008 9:27 PM	What awesome messages. Thanks!
DennisB 144 post s 9-Mar-2008 8:37 AM	burake Stimulating thoughts and thank you All is energy. All is Love. So a part of us is what 'our friends' are too. Too weird and prob too soon as well. But is it? Isn't time an illusuion ? Food for thought Peace Dennis ---------- 'If you put your heart to it you can do most anything'
burake 15 post s 10-Mar-2008 1:40 AM	I liked these words: food for thought. I thought spontanously of food for the soul...Food for the soul, what could this be? How about the word "joy"? Any other comments?
burake 19 post s 10-Mar-2008 12:42 PM	One thing more about Ptaah...Something very personal actually. When I started to get in touch with his energy by reading the books from Jani some ten years ago I started crying. I cried feeling myself as a small child who felt that he was not loved by his parents. I cried for months and months...I have the loveliest parents of the world. They never told me and my sister any bad word, they raised us full of love and understanding - as much as they could. They are really special persons which were specially choosen for this life of mine - this is for sure. So it is not that they didn't give me love. But I felt myself unloved. Like any child I think. And thanks to Ptaah who gave me the courage to look inside. Without him I would never ever do this...
burake 29 post s 23-Mar-2008 1:46 PM	He must be a humpbackwhale...That's what I thought just now when I am listening to them. Sorry ptaah I couldn't keep myself from laughing. Folks imagine ptaah as a big whale :-)) Last Edited on 23-Mar-2008 1:54 PM
SunLike 101 post s 23-Mar-2008 8:01 PM	The beautiful manifestations of one source. :)
burake 35 post s 24-Mar-2008 12:38 PM	Q: Which "one"? A: The "one" Q: Like "no one"? A: Rather like "each and every one" Q: Are we "one"? A: Aren't we? Q: I don't know. A: Maybe you do'nt, but I am sure you want to know the "one". Q: I guess, I do. A: I assume that too...
chanti 8 post s 25-Mar-2008 12:49 AM	Maybe you wanted love from the source and only that high vibration of love would do. And then it came and you felt it.
burake 44 post s 30-Mar-2008 1:16 PM	The "source", the "one", or the "love" needs something which doesn't really know that he's the source, the one or the love I guess...Just for the joy of experiencing this strange form of being..
burake 49 post s 3-Apr-2008 11:13 AM	Maybe I am just missing to be home again. I am sorry and unhappy, full of sorrow because I just missed home..
burake 50 post s 3-Apr-2008 11:18 AM	This can be why I am all of a sudden said sometimes. You know what I mean? Said with no reason, no plausible explanation for this. I think it is a reason good enough to be said to "miss home". Whatever these words mean..
SunLike 111 post s 3-Apr-2008 7:12 PM	This is the ultimate "wake-up" call, Burake. A call from everyone at Home. You can go Home in spirit. Leave your mind behind and the door is opened. :)
claudia 2 post s 20-Apr-2008 4:54 AM	wieso spricht p`taah kein deutsch oder italienisch? ich mochte auch dazu gehoren ,ist soviel verlangt nomaste Last Edited on 20-Apr-2008 4:56 AM
Heidrun 48 post s 20-Apr-2008 9:07 AM	Claudia, die Bücher gibt es in deutsch. Ich denke man bekommt sie bei Amazon, da findest Du die Bücher und auch Bänder und ähnliches. Namaste Heidrun
Heidrun 49 post s 20-Apr-2008 9:15 AM	Claudia, es wird schwierig werden wenn ich alles für Dich ins deutsche übersetzen sollte. Ausserdem, ich bin leider nicht so oft im Forum, schaue nur ab und zu mal, um zu sehen ob es ein neues interessantes Topic gibt. Wenn Du die Bücher nicht kennst, dann lies sie erst einmal und ich denke sie werden Dir viel bringen. Dieses Forum wird rund um den Erdball gelesen und da ist englisch schon am einfachsten. Alles liebe Heidrun
burake 56 post s 23-Apr-2008 11:26 AM	Es lebe die Liebe Burake
claudia 3 post s 25-Apr-2008 11:20 AM	liebe heidrun ich danke dir für deine antwort. ich wollte mit p`taah telefonisch durch jani sprechen aber leider ist nur auf englisch möglich.da ich kein englisch rede darf momentan mit ihm nicht reden. mein frage war : warum nur auf englisch? ich kann es verstehen, dass im forum englisch gesprochen wird, aber privat 1!!! nomaste
Carsten 1 post 25-Apr-2008 5:34 PM	Liebe Claudia, ich habe mich früher auch darüber gewundert, dass P'taah kein deutsch kann. Aber soweit wie ich den Channeling-Prozess inzwischen verstanden habe, kann P'taah deshalb nur englisch sprechen, weil Jani eben nur englisch kann (zumindest kann sie kein deutsch, soweit ich weiß). Vielleicht weiß ja jemand anderes der hier mitliest mehr darüber. Kennst Du ansonsten vielleicht jemanden, der gut genug englisch spricht, so dass diese Person Dein Telefongespräch mit Jani dolmetschen könnte? Keine Ahnung, ob das schon einmal jemand gemacht hat. Hoffe das hilft Dir weiter... Wünsche Dir das Beste, Carsten aus den deutschen Landen :-) --- Dear Claudia, some time ago, I also wondered about P'taah not being able to speak German. Bus as far as I understand the process of channeling now, P'taah is only able to speak English because Jani herself speaks English only (at least she cannot speak German, as far as I know). Maybe anyone else reading this knows more about this topic. Otherwise, do you perhaps know someone speaking English good enough so that this person could interpret your phone call with Jani? Don't know whether somebody else did that before. Hope this might help you... All the best, Carsten from good old Germany :-) Last Edited on 25-Apr-2008 5:36 PM
Heidrun 50 post s 26-Apr-2008 3:45 AM	Liebe CLaudia,Hi Mickey, die Idee von Karsten ist optimal. Ich denke das Ptaah sicher auf mentaler Basis mit Dir komunizieren KÖNNTE, aber..?? Jani stricht kein deutsch. Aber DU hast doch sicher eine Vertrauens-Person die englisch spricht und für Dich als Dolmetscher fungieren könnte? ICh werde die Frage ins Forum stellen, ob es sowas schon mal gegeben hat. Hi Mickey, Karstens idea is very ideal, so wonder if this has happened already, that a private phone conference took place with a "translater" ?? CLaudia would like to talk to Ptaah, but cannot speak english and Jani no german (by the way could Ptaah get in touch mentally with her? Just curious about such a possibility, though I know it will not happen!!) liebe grüße - namaste out of Germany - auch aus Deutschland Heidrun
Heidrun 51 post s 27-Apr-2008 3:59 AM	CLAUDIA KANNST DU MIR EINE MAIL SENDEN AN heidrun.fiene-bachfeld@freenet.de. Ich habe von Mickey eine Antwort auf meine Frage: "ist eine persönliche Session mit Übersetzer möglich" erhalten und würde Dir diese gerne zukommen lassen. liebe Grüße Heidrun
burake 57 post s 27-Apr-2008 9:39 AM	Claudia cannot talk directly to P'taah because she doesn't speak english.So she needs a translator.P'taah cannot directly talk to her, actually to nobody. So he gets help from Jani to translate:-)) Claudia kann nicht direkt mit P'taah sprechen weil sie nicht so gut englisch kann. Sie braucht einen Dolmetscher. P'taah kann nicht mit ihr aber auch mit niemandem direkt sprechen. Er nimmt die Hilfe von Jani als Dolmetscher an:-))
Chris Fine 77 post s 27-Apr-2008 10:12 AM	To Heidrun, Burake and Claudia: Heidrun or Burake - can you tell Claudia that I have a suggestion, and it could work, if she wants to do it. There are translation services (who charge a fee) that could translate for her over the phone with a conference call. This would mean that Claudia would need : 1.) a German/English translator that could translate for her during a phone call. She would need to look up translation services in her area, and call them to see if one of their translators could do this. Usually they can. She could obtain the fee for the service at that time. 2.) a phone line that allows for conference calls, which means that 3 people could be on the same call at once. 3.) Jani's agreement (obtained through Mickey) to have the translations occur. This will also be necessary so that P'taah will understand that a translator will need to translate his words, and Claudia's, so that there will be reasonable pauses during the conversation, so that the translator can translate. If the fees are acceptable to Claudia, and she can do a conference call with a phone line that allows this, then Heidrun (or Burake) should email Mickey with the plan on how this would work, so that she could check with Jani on whether it would work for her and for P'taah. Hope this helps. Much love to you all, Chris Last Edited on 27-Apr-2008 10:40 AM
Chris Fine 78 post s 27-Apr-2008 10:22 AM	As an additional note to Claudia: I believe Carsten mentioned that Jani doesn't know German, so that means P'taah would not be able to speak with Claudia in German. I think this is true, as P'taah uses the mind and brain of Jani as he works through her. He has available only the language(s) which Jani is familiar with, and to my knowledge she is not familiar with the German language. Channels in other countries, who speak other languages, are able to speak in those different (different from English) languages, when the entity they work with comes through them to speak. Let's take for example, a Russian human who channels an entity. That human knows Russian, which is in the human's mind and brain, so the entity coming through that human can speak in Russian. If the language is not within the familiarity of the human channel, it can't be used by the entity because it's just not there in the human to use! This is my understanding of the process, at any rate. Hope this clarifies and I hope you can talk with P'taah. It is a wonderful experience to exchange ideas and energy with Unconditional Love. Not to mention how enhancing it is personally to receive the ideal wisdom and insights gained from the experience. Much love, Chris Last Edited on 27-Apr-2008 10:37 AM
oguz 5 post s 27-Apr-2008 12:17 PM	hello, for german speakers interested,there is also ptaah site in german its : www.ptaah.de PS: burak, hocam mümkünse bunu almancaya cevirebilirmisin. Tesekkurler
Marta 35 post s 27-Apr-2008 6:05 PM	Hello Everyone, I speak German and English. My first encounter with Jani and P'taah has been in German translation in Germany. During the public channeling evening someone asked this question, why P'taah does not speak German. P'taah answered something along the lines of enough of the technicalities. Understanding channeling in itself is quite challenging for some, not to mention languages. If you, Claudia would like a conversation with P'taah, I would be happy to translate for you. Let me know if you'd like that. Liebe Claudia, wenn Du Dich mit P'taah unterhalten mochtest, ich konnte Dir gerne aushelfen. I spreche Deutsch, habe mich selber erst auf Deutsch mit P'taah unterhalten - damals durch englishe Ubersetzung. Heute lebe ich in den Vereinigten Staten und spreche auch English. Ich kenne P'taah's Bucher recht gut und ich glaube dass ich Dir helfen koonte. Bitte lass mich wissen ob Du es mochtest. Alles Liebe, Marti martisimon@hotmail.com Last Edited on 27-Apr-2008 6:09 PM
Heidrun 52 post s 28-Apr-2008 7:20 AM	Hallo Marti, wie geht es Dir? Ich habe ja lange nichts von Dir gehört und gesehen. Schön zu sehen das es Dich noch gibt und es Dir gut geht. Und auch danke - es ist ja unglaublich wie viele Menschen Claudia helfen wollen. Ganz liebe Grüße für Dich Heidrun
Marta 36 post s 28-Apr-2008 7:56 PM	Liebe Heidrun, schon von Dir zu horen!! I komme ab und zu mal zum BB, lese etwas, habe aber wenig Zeit zum schreiben. Wie geht es Dir? Alles Liebe, Marti
burake 58 post s 30-Apr-2008 10:58 AM	oguz verweist auf die Webseite www.ptaah.de
Carsten 2 post s 30-Apr-2008 11:23 AM	Die Site www.ptaah.de ist mehr oder weniger tot, außer Einträgen im Gästebuch ist da schon lange nichts mehr passiert. Ich bezweifle auch, dass dessen Besitzer eine Verbindung zu Jani hat. Von daher scheint diese Site wohl nicht wirklich hilfreich zu sein... The site www.ptaah.de is dead more or less, except for some entries in the guestbook nothing has been happening there for a long time. I do also doubt that its owner has a connection to Jani. Thus that site does not seem to be really helpful... Carsten Last Edited on 30-Apr-2008 11:26 AM
claudia 4 post s 4-May-2008 9:02 AM	hallo Freunde ich bin gerührt über eure Hilfe. Ihr seid grossartig. ich werde auf das Angebot zurückkommen, wenn ich mit P`taah telefoniere möchte. noch Mal vielen dank.IN LIEBE Claudia.
Carsten 5 post s 5-May-2008 1:46 PM	Claudia says: Hello friends, I am touched by your help. You are great. I will remember the offer when I want to make a phone call with P’taah. Thank you very much again. IN LOVE Claudia. Last Edited on 5-May-2008 4:46 PM
burake 64 post s 13-May-2008 10:12 AM	The biggest wisdom Is being without any wisdom The biggest need Is being without any need The most important thing Is being unimportant The most capable thing in the universe Is "being nothing" The ultimate end a man can reach in life Is being without God Not being an atheist Just being without the need of it
burake 69 post s 16-May-2008 1:01 PM	About P'taah Listening to music Is like Listening to the universe Listening to music Is like Listening to myself It is like Listening to the universe inside And putting it aside To look to and wonder The outside Last Edited on 16-May-2008 1:03 PM
burake 70 post s 17-May-2008 12:13 PM	I made a discovery, P'taahs teaching doesn't make sense to me in the point "taking the baby me" in the arms and embracing it. I keep on asking where is this baby. The discovery is "because I am afraid to see the broken heart the baby carries within"
SunLike 181 post s 18-May-2008 6:50 PM	"I made a discovery, P'taahs teaching doesn't make sense to me in the point "taking the baby me" in the arms and embracing it. I keep on asking where is this baby. The discovery is "because I am afraid to see the broken heart the baby carries within"" This discovery of yours is the second step in healing. The first being denial which is your ego's defense (I don't see it, I don't feel it, There is no such thing....) Remember you were saying you had ups and downs lately ? Emotional pain/discomfort (dis-ease) is the prime motivator for change. If your ego hadn't used such defenses as denial, procrastination, suppression, ....etc. you wouldn't have to deal with events happened to you years, usually decades ago. You would have dealt with the anger/resentment/hurt .... emotions as a results of those events on the spot. What I have found is that "Living in the Now" has one "disadvantage", and that is if your "Now" is burdened by the past baggages. Arguing "who hasn't ?" is not going to help an iota because it is yet another ego's defence trying to snub out what needs to be dealt you. The "Baby You" is the you who was being mistreated in childhood, by your parents or primary caregiver(s) whoever s/he was. Mistreatment includes : speaking out of feelings not encouraged (even discouraged), constant criticism and blaming, instrusiveness, conditional love, individuality discouraged or even punished, no acknowledgement of feelings, lack of respect, ....... etc. If you can spot recurring patterns in your life, that would be one indicator that your awareness is getting better. And that your ego's grip on you is getting weaker. The programs for generating these recurring life patterns work in your subconscious mind. Ask yourself, "Why do I behave in such ways ?" "Who, really, is behaving in such ways ?" Then you know where "the baby" who P'taah talks about is. :) Next, you have to face and "digest" the feelings of that Baby One, be they anger, resentment, fear, insecurities, .....
burake 99 post s 11-Jun-2008 11:13 AM	I think it is all "the same step". To accept that I am afraid, to get to the feelings of the broken heart and to allow these feelings. All of these steps are made with love or "out of love". They're not steps very different from eachother, maybe not "separate" from eachother and maybe even made at "the same moment" and not after eachother. Last Edited on 11-Jun-2008 11:16 AM
burake 111 post s 17-Jun-2008 8:54 AM	What is fear? I kept asking to myself the other day. P'taah is speaking about choosing between love and fear. But can we really "choose fear" like we choose love? If I understood his teachings well; no. What we can do is only to choose love or not to choose love. But fear is not the opposite of love. It is not, because it is only that moment in which we are in the non-awareness of love. Actually there is only love and when we "notice" it, it lets us "grow" in our own being - here "he/she/it being P'taah" talks about "choosing love". But we cannot really choose fear because in the moment we notice that we are in fear we will not "chase it or choose it", we will overcome it automatically. So the decision is between choosing love and choosing love :)) PS: I do not think that my understanding is right, nor is it wrong, it is just a reflection...
burake 122 post s 20-Jun-2008 12:27 PM	Quote I just read the words of an islamic philosopher Omer Hayyam. I will try to translate them: This earth, this sky, these stars They are all nothing of importance The only thing of importance is That you keep your heart in peace and joy In this universe which is being created and destroyed Every second again and again That which belongs you is only a breath And that is also no thing of importance Last Edited on 20-Jun-2008 1:03 PM
burake 123 post s 20-Jun-2008 12:35 PM	Quote The prophet Mohammed said once: As long as you are not faithful You won't be let into paradise And as long as you do not love eachother You cannot be considered as faithful Ptaah, Omer Hayyam, Mohammed. It's all about Love... Last Edited on 20-Jun-2008 12:48 PM
burake 130 post s 23-Jun-2008 10:32 PM	One thing more about P'taah: The more I follow the way he shows, the more I let my feelings florish the more I live a kind of chaos in my life. I feel very disappointed, and really of everything. Things about which I would laugh before are annoying for me, I have lost my selfconfidence and feel weak. Maybe this is only experiencing my vulnerability which I have been resisting before. If so I believe there will be better times.
burake 132 post s 24-Jun-2008 7:03 AM	When they put the light coming From the other stars apart And make a survey with the quants While asking them the questions Offer them a cup of tea The tea smelling so well They just forget the questions They simply do not try to categorize Or to understand anymore Just like a leave would do And always will do The scientists I mean And the physicists I mean This I would suggest them If one day somebody asks me During a survey Being made with lightquants Last Edited on 24-Jun-2008 12:16 PM
burake 133 post s 24-Jun-2008 7:18 AM	CREATION To the ones who want to know About creation To those who ask themselves Was it the Big Bang Or did God create everything And ask themselves What will happen when the Bang of the Big is over Will God take the things over I would say Don't worry about these things God knows to help himself So does the Big Bang But do worry about yourself The one Who asked the question The one who wants to know everything Did he ask himself who am I That most important question o'thing The most important question of thing Between all which have been ever created About the most wonderful being So went the the words of the king Throu the hearts Throu the hearts o'thing Last Edited on 24-Jun-2008 7:27 AM
burake 137 post s 5-Jul-2008 10:27 AM	What do people say When they hear about who they are What do people say When they hear about being the most wonderful being Will they believe it Do you believe they will believe it Last Edited on 5-Jul-2008 10:28 AM
burake 138 post s 5-Jul-2008 10:34 AM	Wisdom is sometimes to say this Or the other thing But mostly The silent being Wise is the person who is silent in himself Even when he is speaking We can never know who is wise who is not At least by only looking at his talking
burake 139 post s 5-Jul-2008 10:37 AM	The biggest wisdom is To love everything It will be wise to start on the path of wisdom With loving some very Unsignificant thing Called myself the being
burake 140 post s 5-Jul-2008 10:43 AM	We know very well About everything We know about the universe About people and the other forms of being We even know how to travel to space Without falling But about that very forgotten thing The child who learned He himself is not the universe anymore Do we really know Much of a thing
burake 142 post s 5-Jul-2008 10:48 AM	Nothing is important But that most important thing About the child And about him remembering
burake 143 post s 13-Jul-2008 7:22 AM	Have you ever seen a smile So big that The whole universe disappears inside Like the smile of a child I mean A smile that is so big All your beliefs and rights and wrongs All your knowledge and ratio and even feelings Disappear inside Like the smile of a child Have you ever seen An innocent smile Like the smile of a child A smile When you really go with the flow of it You will loose yourself in it?